Kerri took her last drink on November 6, 2018.  This is her story.

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On today’s episode Paul talks about meeting the man he would stay with while in Mexico, hearing his story, and discovering they had a connection through the TEDx Talk that Paul gave.  You can find the TEDx Talk, I’ve been duped by alcohol, here.

Paul also discusses a video he recently watched, an interview by Dr. Gabor Mate, (author of In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts).  Dr. Mate says if you want to look at what causes the addiction you have to look at the benefit of addiction.  That the greatest myth on addiction is that its genetic, the other myth around addiction is that it is a choice that people make.  You can watch the Dr. Gabor Mate video here.


[10:14] Paul introduces Kerri.  (**Doing the shownotes for my own interview is awkward! **) 


Kerri just turned 50, is married, and lives in Redding, CA.  She has two adult daughters, that both have families, and is a grandmother to 4.  For work Kerri recently fell into a new career, as a baker, and does stuff for RE.  For fun Kerri loves to be outdoors, hiking, taking her 3 rescue dogs out, travel, and kayaking.


[15:51] Give us a background on your drinking.


Kerri started drinking in high school and was a black out drinker from the start.  A family move before 9th grade made Kerri very angry.  Alcohol helped her fit into a new school and she quickly became known as a partier.

Kerri got married at 19, had her daughters right away.  She says that her and her ex-husband were problem drinkers throughout their entire 17-year marriage.  Kerri’s drinking really ramped up after her divorce.


[17:00] How old were you when you realized you had a problem with alcohol? 


Kerri says that in high school she knew she didn’t drink like her friends, but that she didn’t care.  Alcohol got her out of her shell.


[18:00] What happened after your divorce?


Kerri says her drinking ramped up and it got bad, really quick.  It was a big life change for Kerri, with the divorce, having to go out and find a job, and her daughters basically being out of the house.  She was drinking at home alone, blacking out every time.


[23:35] How come you didn’t feel ready to do this interview?    


Kerri said she didn’t feel like she had anything worth sharing.  She said that has felt that way all her life.


[26:23] Did you have a rock bottom moment?


Kerri said yes.  After getting her teaching credential later in life, which Kerri says was a dream job, she was fired from two teaching jobs as the result of her drinking.  Kerri surrendered her teaching credential.


[31:00] Talk to us about how you did it the first weeks, first month.


Kerri said it was really hard, that she didn’t know what anyone (co-workers, parents) was told or what they knew.  Kerri was afraid to leave her house for fear of running into someone, she would grocery shop at 2:00 AM.  She said she was filled with so much anxiety that she didn’t know how she was going to come out of it the 2nd time around.  She went to a therapist for the first time.  She sought out and entered into a 90-day IOP program.


[35:17] You’ve burned the ships on social media, what kind of response have you received?


Kerri said she has received nothing but support and encouragement, and she encourages everyone to do it.


[37:50] Talk to us about the breakthrough you had at the Bozeman retreat. 


Kerri said she got much from the entire retreat but it was the Clarity Breathwork that really did it for her.  She said once she was able to stop paying attention to what was going on around her and just do her thing, she was able to experience something powerful that changed her.


[44:38] Rapid Fire Round


  1. What’s a lightbulb moment you’ve had on this journey?


That I don’t have to live up to, what I think are, other people’s expectations.


  1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?


All these RE retreats, that is something I never would have imagined doing…taking off and meeting strangers.


  1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?


I’m kind of boring, I really don’t do the mocktail thing, I’m a water drinker.


  1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?


Definitely Café RE, these sober meetups, retreats and I listen to a lot of podcasts.


  1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?


Travel, travel, and more travel.  I want to do a marathon.


  1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?


To recover, get sober, whatever you want to call it, your way.  Your way may be different than someone else’s, and to not worry about what other people think.


You might need to ditch the booze if…


You wake up one morning with a broken ankle and you have no idea how you did it.


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